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A player partaking in a siege, wearing the Strange Set

If you want to gain control of a fief, you must besiege it. You need to have a few men in order to besiege something - you are not even given the option if you don't have enough troops in your company.

While a fortification is under siege, some of the usual entry options will be unavailable.

EquipmentEdit

No special equipment is required for laying siege, however, to assault a fortification requires construction of ladders, ramps, or siege towers. The siege equipment constructed is unique to the fortification and takes time (based on your engineering skill) to build. If you do not want to assault, you will have to wait until the residents surrender, usually caused by starvation (30 days in a castle and 100 days in a town), however, if they are sufficiently outnumbered, they may surrender immediately.

The following table indicates time required to build siege equipment based on your skill in Engineer. Note that if one of your companions has higher Engineer than you, it will go by their level, plus a bonus added to their skill based on your current level.

Engineer Siege Ladders Siege Tower
0 9 Hours 90 Hours
1 8 Hours 84 Hours
2 8 Hours 78 Hours
3 7 Hours 72 Hours
4 6 Hours 66 Hours
5 6 Hours 60 Hours
6 5 Hours 54 Hours
7 4 Hours 48 Hours
8 4 Hours 42 Hours
9 3 Hours 36 Hours
10 2 Hours 30 Hours
11 1 Hour 24 Hours
12 1 Hour 18 Hours
13 0 Hours* 12 Hours
14 0 Hours* 6 Hours

Levels 11-14 are only attainable through the party skill bonuses.

*Note that although levels 13 and 14 will make the claim that it takes "0 Hours" to build ladders, in reality, it means that building them will take "less than an hour".

AssaultEdit

Siege Ladder

About to scale a siege ladder.

An assault on towns or castles could consist of between one and four battles, or, in rare cases more.

DefenseEdit

This is where the defenders inside the castle sally out to meet your assault. Often, they will appear quite close to you, and they may keep coming if the castle has a large garrison. Note that this battle may be omitted if the town or castle has very few defenders, or you may have to fight it several times if the garrison is large enough.

Attacking the wallsEdit

This is where your ladders or siege tower come into play. The men on the walls will constantly attack you and your men while they charge up the ladders or up the siege tower and onto the walls. If the men guarding the siege tower are killed, the tower will cease moving until more men arrive to move it forwards.

This is the only battle phase which is guaranteed to happen. An ideal way to win this stage is to bring your best archers, often Rhodok Sharpshooters, and your best melee infantry, often Nord Huscarls, to this stage. Use the Huscarl's shields for cover while the Sharpshooters pick off the enemy archers on the walls. When the rain of arrows on your men have stopped, order your Huscarls to charge.

StreetsEdit

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The fight in Wercheg's courtyard.

This battle only occurs in towns, and may not happen if there are few defenders left after the previous battle. You must go into the streets with some of your troops and defeat the defenders there. It is similar to when you get ambushed in a town. Here you will have about 5-6 men attacking you from all angles and have about 4 other men who will back you up.

KeepEdit

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The fight in Wercheg's fortress.

The final battle takes place in the keep. This is identical to the street battle, but in the castle keep instead of the town centre. The strategy to use depends on the style of keep you are attacking, but often the defenders have an advantage from being a floor above you. There will normally be about 4-5 men in this area and it will be you and 3 other men who will lead the attack.


StrategyEdit

Most castles are quite difficult to conquer without swarming it with a larger army than the garrison. It is possible to besiege a castle with a small, experienced force, but preparation and knowledge of the castle's defenses are required in most cases. The garrison complement inside the castle can be seen by approaching closely and holding the cursor over the castle. If you'll be facing off against 50 Rhodok Sergeants backed by 100 Rhodok Sharpshooters, you may be in for a difficult or unwinnable fight; a less formidable force of only 20 Trained Spearmen, 10 Militia, and 20 Crossbowmen might be easily defeated. The troops in the garrison make all the difference in deciding whether to besiege the castle or pass it by. If you choose to besiege you'll want someone in your party with a high surgery skill, and be prepared to upset your heroes if you decide to attack a castle with a smaller force than the garrison. A good target for a siege would be a castle that has recently been taken back by its original faction; it is likely that fewer than 100 men guard the castle. Conversely, if there is a large garrison, many of them might be new recruits and very easy to kill.

It is important to take note of how difficult the particular castle/town will be to assault. Certain towns/castles are easier to besiege and capture, while others are designed as deathtraps for the invaders (Grunwalder Castle is a good example of this). When using Siege Towers, six of your troops are exposed to prolonged enemy fire virtually guaranteeing casualties before the first man reaches the outer walls.

It will take some experience to identify weak points in a castle's defenses and strong points that may mean disaster for your Party. Avoid long advances over ground that is in the line of fire of the castle's archers and towers. Don't attempt to climb ladders that are covered by protected enemy archers. If the opportunity presents itself, soften the defenses by sniping the enemy archers on the castle's parapets before approaching the walls with your infantry.

TacticsEdit

However, a simple exploit can be used to defeat a castle with minimal losses while having an army much smaller than the castle's.

If you build up an army of 100% archers, or plenty of archers and some infantry to protect them, you can position them outside the castle and tell them to hold position. This prevents all the enemy melee troops from doing anything (except when you attack the Nords; make sure you stay far away from Nord castle walls). You may participate in shooting at the troops in the castle, especially archers because they will make mincemeat of anything that gets too close to the walls. Make sure you don't die; it will result in an early retreat and you will lose time, morale, and some troops. Keep firing arrows at the enemy, but don't forget to get the used arrows if you are at a safe distance, because you will need them. It is good idea to use the same arrow/bolt type as your troops use, because they will shoot many arrows at the tip of the ladder. Just be careful if the enemies still have some archers or if you are fighting Nords (or just take Board Shields). Once your archers start to run out of arrows, just retreat, rebuild the ladders, and fight again with full quivers. Repeat this process until the castle either surrenders or you can defeat the remainder of the garrison.

It is possible to take many of the enemy out by yourself. If you eliminate the archers in the garrison, go up and sit at the edge of ladder with crossbow or bow, just out of reach of the enemy melee combatants. They will lower their shields to try and attack you, and you can take a few easy headshots. If you don't have enough arrows, just have your archers open fire and collect the arrows from around the edge of entryway (or collect the arrows already there and off of the fallen). The remaining garrison is yours to toy with (use as shooting practice)! You can use weapons with quite a bit of reach too (like Polearms and Two-handed Weapons), but it is harder to land criticals and it is far easier for your opponents to block your attacks.

Always be careful when attacking the Nords or any group that has infantry armed with Thrown Weapons. If you don't know who has the thrown weapons, just send some shielded infantry in front of the ladder and wait for a little bit. Should be fairly obvious if you start to see axes, spears, or broken shields sprawled across the ground. And make sure that your shield is up when you cross the ladder, immediately fall back if something hits your shield and find who did it (so that you can execute them). Sarranid, Rhodok, and Nord infantry at the very least carry thrown weapons at some point in their careers.

A tactic you can use is to place Nord Huscarls in their own command group and send them up the ladder/tower first. Their large shields will keep them from falling to archers, as well as soaking up arrows that would otherwise kill your weaker troops. Furthermore, Huscarls are one of the best infantry units in the game, so when they reach the tightly packed defenders, they cut their way through quickly, clearing a path for the rest of your army to take the walls. This tactic works particularly well against Khergits, who generally have only dismounted horsemen defending their castles. It is not uncommon for tiny parties of Nords to take heavily defended castles in this manner (often 50 men is all that is needed provided you have at least 10 Huscarls to clear the way). This can also work with any higher tier unit such as Sarranid Mamlukes and Rhodok Sergeants and the like, however Huscarls are the best units for this. You'll probably want 70 troops instead of 50 if you go with a different culture group.

It is possible to take a castle with just your heroes. It is, however, difficult and dangerous. If you and all your heroes die, you will be taken prisoner and your heroes will scatter. You should have your heroes equipped with a ranged weapon (a bow preferably or at least thrown weapons since crossbows take too long to reload) and any type of melee weapon that is good in close quarters combat. Since you will have a small party (anywhere from 8-17), the enemy will almost always sally out to meet your assault. When the battle starts, you should tell your heroes to spread out (so they can fire their projectiles longer and incoming fire will miss more often) and you should run away from the enemy. If there is a small hill you can get your heroes onto it but make sure you get far enough away from the enemies so that you can retreat when your heroes start losing. If you have a ranged weapon you can shoot at the enemy troops from a safe distance. When almost all of your heroes are knocked unconscious, retreat from the battle. You and your heroes will almost always be wounded pretty badly so this strategy works best when you have a character with a lot of first aid and wound treatment. Attack the castle again when you are ready. Repeat until victory is achieved. This strategy is very good for leveling up your heroes and it is a nice way to test their strength since you will be fighting very strong opponents. It is important to target either Khergit castles or Vaegir castles since they tend to be unable to block arrows more often than not.

In sieges, all friendly lords and his soldiers will hear your F1~F3 command, even if you are just a mercenary (let alone the Marshall). So you don't need to waste their troops by simply having everyone charge forward (unless you hate your allied lords with a passion).

Defense: the Other Side of SiegesEdit

Inevitably, one of your fortifications will be attacked and you will have to defend it or risk losing it.

Ironically, one of the best defenses with archers is not to hold the walls, but to retreat back and let the constriction at the wall string out the assaulting force. Line up your archers in the courtyard and let the withering fire decimate the enemy as they attempt to close range. Use your more heavily armored infantry and cavalry to delay the enemy vanguard so the remainder get stuck waiting to engage and therefore subject to missile fire. This also limits allied troops wasting ammunition on targets since they have virtually no chance of not hitting or injuring.

A final improvement to this tactic would be to position your melee troops to make enemy assault troops expose their unshielded sides when they attempt to engage them.

In contrast, for a force of mostly melee troops, holding the breach points is very effective. At the very start of a defense, position every single man at your disposal to hold position right against the breach. You should also order them to stand closer together, this creates a very dense group of soldiers that the enemy struggles to break into thus turning their assault into a trickle of enemies who have at most one swing before they are killed.

With this tactic, it makes it possible to defeat an army over 500 with around 70 men.

It should be noted however, you must not stay within the group as you could get trapped in a wide opening with many angry archers firing at you, immediately pull back as your men rush to that position. From this point, you can gain some excellent archer practice as the attackers are virtually standing still on the ramp. If you run out of ammo, you can gather up projectiles or arrows and replying in kind. Also defenses breached by wide ramps will make this tactic less effective as the attacker can put more troops into the breach which may clear space enough for a foothold.

In the end, defense is all about exploiting the defensive constrictions to achieve local numerical superiority.

With Fire & SwordEdit

In With Fire & Sword, before you begin to attack and put the ladders up, you can decrease the number of men inside by poisoning the water supply. The success of this action will depend on your tactics, the more points you have, the less chance you will be caught, but if you fail, you have to fight your way out. You can attempt to poison the water again, but not within the same day.

After the poisoning of the water, you can choose to attack, wait until tomorrow, attempt to break through the gates (only if your besieging a town with a large enough party), or simply blow a hole into the walls with explosives. You may also see the commander of the castle you are besieging, when you speak to him, it might give you the option to bribe him to open the gates, depending on your persuasion, but comes at the cost of about 20,000 thalers.

If their numbers are dwindling and yours are massive, you can persuade the commander to open the gates and let your troops in take the town/fortress with guarantees of mercy for the defenders (if your persuasion is high enough).

The presence of deadly firearms in With Fire & Sword makes holding the walls an extremely dangerous exercise, as enemies will swarm the walls from several sides, and stray bullets pose a continuous threat. An alternative tactic is to give up the walls as soon as the battle begins, immediately retreat to the far end of the castle courtyard and hide your force in a corner behind buildings. The retreat is likely to cost the lives of many of your units, but the position you're retreating to will be a lot easier to hold. Enemy troops will have to run a far distance from their spawn point to reach your troops, usually only coming from one or two easily-defendable directions, and they will not get the opportunity to shoot at you from afar. Bottlenecks such as staircases or building corners tend to force enemies to run single-file, so the assault will be very spread out with enemies reaching you in small groups. Keep your infantry at the back, and await the enemies with a line of musketeers or pistol-armed cavalry. If done right, the enemy will have no clear line of sight to your troops before they have rounded the corner of the building you are hiding behind - where they will be greeted by a massive volley of bullets from your army. Especially in cities, where masses of enemy units will easily be stuck between buildings, this tactic can allow a small force of Musketeers and Reiters to hold against a siege of several hundred enemies.

After the siegeEdit

In the same way as after a normal battle, you may take any items from the castle or town, and you may also get some prisoners. You can also rescue prisoners held at the castle or town and hire them into your own army.

If you have joined a faction, you may choose to ask your king for the land. After a short time, you will either receive it or not. If you asked the king for the land and did not receive it, you may renounce your oath and fief (you will not get the fief you just took either), or renounce your oath and take every fief including the one you just took, causing you to join the rebel faction, or you can accept the king's decision and take a payout (default is 900 denars).

The prosperity of the fief will also decrease slightly.

If you are already part of the rebel faction, you will just take the castle for yourself.

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